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This day-by-day diary of David Lindley and Chris Darrow’s live, studio, broadcasting and private activities is the result of three decades of research and interview work by Bruno Ceriotti, but without the significant contributions by other kindred spirits this diary would not have been possible. So, I would like to thank all the people who, in one form or another, contributed to this timeline: Chris Darrow (RIP), Bob Warford, Steve Cahill, Debbie Fawcett, David Lindley (RIP), Pete Fullerton, Mike McClellan, Jason Odd, Bill T. DeBlonk, David Naiditch, Klemen Breznikar, Dan Collins, John Delgatto, Graham Bennett, Steve Gillette, Mayne Smith, Mark Beatie, Peter Lindblad, It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine, Mark Wally McClellan, Los Angeles Free Press, Ross Hannan, Corry Arnold, Mac Garry, Steve Hyman, John Platt (RIP), Comstock Lode, ZigZag, Van Nuys Valley News, Pasadena Independent, Clive Perkins, Tim Dowling, and Don.
Tuesday, March 21, 1944
David Perry Lindley was born in San Marino, Los Angeles County, California, as the son of Jack Lindley (b. John Young (later adopted Lindley), October 7, 1914, Utah - d. December 2, 1997, Los Angeles), a lawyer, and Margaret H. Wells (b. December 18, 1919, Los Angeles - d. July 15, 1985, Los Angeles), a housewife. David has three brothers, John Jr. (b. 1942), Patrick Howard (b. 1947), and Peter Dalton (b. 1950), and a younger sister, Anne M (b. May 21, 1953, Los Angeles). He has also several cousins, including fellow rockstars Linda Ronstadt, and Peter Lewis of Moby Grape!
Sunday, July 30, 1944
Christopher Lloyd Darrow was born in Sioux Falls, Minnehaha County, South Dakota, as the oldest child of artists Paul Darrow (b. October 31, 1921 - November 11, 2019) and Nadine Gunderson (b. December 11, 1920 - d. February 16, 1996). His dad Paul was also a self taught musician, who, in his younger days, played clarinet with The Mentor Street Maniacs, a traditional jazz band from Pasadena, California, and later in the 50s took up saxophone and started playing cool jazz. Chris' maternal grandfather Lloyd Gunderson was also a musician, he was into Hawaiian music and country music. Paul Darrow was in the army when his son was born in Sioux Falls, so Chris never really lived there. Right after Chris' birth, their parents took him back to their hometown of Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California. A few years later, the Darrow family moved again to the near city of Claremont, 30 miles east of Downtown Los Angeles, at the base of San Gabriel Mountains, as Paul was hired to teach art at the local Scripps College. The Darrow lived in a white/Hispanic neighborhood called Arbol Verde. It was in California that Paul and Nadine's youngest children were born, Joan Christine in 1948 or 49, Elizabeth in 1950 or 51, and Eric on December 26, 1952 or 53. Joan will play flute with Leonard Harper's Afro-Cuban Band (Leonard was Ben Harper's dad), then married David Lindley (who else!) on November 26, 1976, and finally she became a photographer, printmaker and painter. Elizabeth will become a painter, and Eric will become a ceramic artist.
David Perry Lindley was born in San Marino, Los Angeles County, California, as the son of Jack Lindley (b. John Young (later adopted Lindley), October 7, 1914, Utah - d. December 2, 1997, Los Angeles), a lawyer, and Margaret H. Wells (b. December 18, 1919, Los Angeles - d. July 15, 1985, Los Angeles), a housewife. David has three brothers, John Jr. (b. 1942), Patrick Howard (b. 1947), and Peter Dalton (b. 1950), and a younger sister, Anne M (b. May 21, 1953, Los Angeles). He has also several cousins, including fellow rockstars Linda Ronstadt, and Peter Lewis of Moby Grape!
Sunday, July 30, 1944
Christopher Lloyd Darrow was born in Sioux Falls, Minnehaha County, South Dakota, as the oldest child of artists Paul Darrow (b. October 31, 1921 - November 11, 2019) and Nadine Gunderson (b. December 11, 1920 - d. February 16, 1996). His dad Paul was also a self taught musician, who, in his younger days, played clarinet with The Mentor Street Maniacs, a traditional jazz band from Pasadena, California, and later in the 50s took up saxophone and started playing cool jazz. Chris' maternal grandfather Lloyd Gunderson was also a musician, he was into Hawaiian music and country music. Paul Darrow was in the army when his son was born in Sioux Falls, so Chris never really lived there. Right after Chris' birth, their parents took him back to their hometown of Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California. A few years later, the Darrow family moved again to the near city of Claremont, 30 miles east of Downtown Los Angeles, at the base of San Gabriel Mountains, as Paul was hired to teach art at the local Scripps College. The Darrow lived in a white/Hispanic neighborhood called Arbol Verde. It was in California that Paul and Nadine's youngest children were born, Joan Christine in 1948 or 49, Elizabeth in 1950 or 51, and Eric on December 26, 1952 or 53. Joan will play flute with Leonard Harper's Afro-Cuban Band (Leonard was Ben Harper's dad), then married David Lindley (who else!) on November 26, 1976, and finally she became a photographer, printmaker and painter. Elizabeth will become a painter, and Eric will become a ceramic artist.
Chris Darrow and her mom Nadine in the 40s
1946
David Lindley was two years old when one of his older brothers gave him the fastest kiddy car on the block. One day, he took the car to the top of a hill and then proceeded downwards at an ever-increasing speed - halfway down, the car started to leave his control and ended up crashing into a very sticky, prickly and solid palm tree. Unfortunately his face also connected at great speed with the tree, resulting in a broken nose and several other facial bones, which is very difficult for young children to achieve. "It was an experience that I wouldn't forget," David confirms in an interview with John Platt for the British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "My brother put me on that little gray wagon and took me home. I was an absolute mess. My mother really did take me round to show people and said 'Oh God! None of my other children look like this!'"
1948/49
Chris Darrow was only four or five years old when he learned to play a number of songs on ukulele, and he could sing them too. However, his baby sister Joan sat on ukulele one day, and broke it! After that he only sang in school choirs and glee clubs until he began to play clarinet many years later.
1956 - 1958
Chris Darrow was in junior high school when he took some private clarinet lessons and played it on the school orchestra for a couple of years, at least until he put it away because he didn't like it very much!
September 1958 - June 1962
David Lindley attended La Salle High School, a private, Roman Catholic college preparatory high school run by the Christian Brothers organization, and located at 3880 East Sierra Madre Boulevard in Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California. "I was actually going to be a Christian Brother at one time, but decided not to," David recalls in an interview with John Platt for the British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "I was going to make wine and brandy and teach. However, I met a girl who introduced me to all kinds of other things… But that whole calling - you either get religion or you don't. I wanted to be in the Order; usually you're not ordained - it's mostly guys who were teachers for whom I had a lot of respect, and I kinda wanted to be one. I'd never seen classes conducted in that way, with such control. Like one guy called Brother Emery who was an athlete; I was into track and field at that time (so was Chris Darrow, as it happens). I was going to teach but I discovered the banjo instead."
September 1958 - June 1962
Chris Darrow attended Claremont High School, 1601 North Indian Hill Boulevard, Claremont, San Gabriel Mountains, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, CA. By the way, one of Chris' classmates was Bobby Zappa, Frank Zappa's little brother.
Chris Darrow in high school
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Claremont High School yearbook 1962
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Fall 1958
Chris Darrow purchased his first acoustic guitar at a small, family-run instrument shop called the Folk Music Center, on Harvard Avenue, in Claremont. The Folk Music Center, opened by Charles and Dorothy Chase last August and still open to date, was a godsend to a kid like him who wanted to play guitar and learn about folk music. You could take an instrument home and play it while you were paying it off. By the way, Chris learned to play the guitat self taught and soon after he began his musical career singin' and playin' acoustic guitar along with his neighbor and best friend Roger Palos, a Mexican-born who also sings and plays acoustic guitar. The songs that they learned were from the folk music genre (The Kingston Trio were a major influence), and popular songs from Elvis Presley, Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, and Ritchie Valens. “I started playing locally with my best friend, a real good guy called Roger Palos, who was a Mexican from my neighbourhood (which was basically Mexican)," Chris confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "We used to sing and play guitar together at parties and so on... and I wrote my first songs – teenage heart-throb things, you know... real meaningful songs about my girlfriends – like one called ‘Oh Linda’, I remember." "But after a year or so," he adds, "I realized that I could play guitar as well as most of the people on the folk scene - and most of the my enthusiasm for commercial folk music dried up real fast, and I fell in love with the blues. That’s when I started spending most of my spare time in the shop, just listening to records by Big Bill Broonzy, Brownie [McGhee] and Sonny [Terry], anything I could get my hands on… Chas [Charles Chase] played me that Earl Taylor record [Earl Taylor and The Stoney Mountain Boys' album 'Folk Songs From The Blue Grass'], and I was hooked. Bluegrass music took over my whole life.”
CHRIS DARROW & ROGER PALOS (FALL 1958 - 1960 (?))
1) Chris Darrow vocals, acoustic guitar
2) Roger Palos vocals, acoustic guitar
1) Chris Darrow vocals, acoustic guitar
2) Roger Palos vocals, acoustic guitar
1958
David Lindley starts play his dad's baritone ukulele.
1958/59
Chris Darrow starts giving private acoustic guitar lessons almost every day and for many years (at least until 1966). It was also around that time that he learned to play dobro, banjo, fiddle, and mandolin, all self taught!
December 1958/January 1959
Chris Darrow saw one of his music idols, Ritchie Valens, play at the Rainbow Gardens, 150 East Monterey, Pomona, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California, just a month or so before his death. By the way, the opening act were Jan & Dean, and the house band were Manuel and The Renegades or The Mixtures.
September 1959 - June 1962
At the same time as Claremont High School, Chris Darrow also attended the Webb School Of California, a privare college prep school for boys, located at 1175 West Baseline Road, Claremont. "I attended [Webb] for about a couple of years," Chris Darrow recalls in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "[My future bandmates] Bob Warford and Richard Greene were there at the time too, and Robert Mitchum’s son was in my class. It was basically a school for rich kids, but I was getting my tuition free, because my father taught art there... And I’d wanted to transfer there because I was really into athletics and they started inter-school athletics a year earlier at Webb.”
1960 (?): 'Annual Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Knott's Berry Farm, 8039 Beach Boulevard, Buena Park, Orange County, California
David Lindley entered an invitational Banjo/Fiddle Contest, which was held every year at the Knott's Berry Farm, California's best amusement park. Anyway, I do not know if he won or not.
1960 (?)
Chris Darrow and Roger Palos formed a bluegrass trio called the Reorganized Dry City Players with a Chris' schoolmate and friend named Peter White 'Pete' Madlem (b. Sunday, September 16, 1945, Alameda County, California). The reference to "Dry City" seems from the fact that until as late as 1971, because of the many colleges and schools, there were no bars or stores in Claremont, selling alcohol.
REORGANIZED DRY CITY PLAYERS #1 (1960 (?) - 1961 (?))
1) Chris Darrow lead vocals, fiddle, mandolin
2) Roger Palos acoustic guitar, backup vocals
3) Pete Madlem banjo, dobro, backup vocals
1) Chris Darrow lead vocals, fiddle, mandolin
2) Roger Palos acoustic guitar, backup vocals
3) Pete Madlem banjo, dobro, backup vocals
1961 (?)
The Reorganized Dry City Players added Pete Fullerton (b. Clive Avon Fullerton, Wednesday, February 6, 1946, Los Angeles County, California) on upright bass and backup vocals.
REORGANIZED DRY CITY PLAYERS #2 (1961 (?) - NOVEMBER or DECEMBER 1962)
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton upright bass, backup vocals
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton upright bass, backup vocals
Early 60s
David Lindley teaches how to play different musical instruments at the Berry and Grassmueck music store located at 927 East Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena, and at the same time, he sometimes played together with Marty Nelson, another teacher of the music store (several years later Marty did the cover of Kaleidoscope's 2nd album, 'A Beacon From Mars'). By the way, the famous session drummer Jim Keltner was another teacher of the Berry and Grassmueck music store at the time.
Sunday, August 20, 1961: '1st Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Ian Thiermann's place amid the native oaks known as 'Friendly Acres', Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley entered the first edition of the now famous annual 'Topanga Banjo/Fiddle Contest', and came 3rd or 4th in the bluegrass banjo professional division. David played a 5-string banjo and was backed up by his friends Philip 'Phil' Cleveland on string bass, and Mike McClellan (b. Michael Bartlett McClellan, Monday, November 16, 1942, St. Louis, Missouri) on 6-string guitar. David met Mike that summer when the latter, just out of high school in Honolulu, moved to California to play music at the Cat's Pajamas, a coffehouse in Arcadia (it was there that David met Mike). David and Mike jammed together - mostly 5-string banjo at the time. David was also playing classical and flamenco guitar. He wasn't much into blues, but Mike was, on the guitar and harmonica. According to David, Mike was a huge influence on the stuff he later did and the multi-instrumental aspect of it. Anyway, David on 6-string guitar and Phil on string bass also backed up Mike who played 5-string banjo in the contest too, and he came 2nd in the same bluegrass banjo professional division. By the way, David's future bandmate Richard 'Dick' Greene also entered the contest that year and he won the bluegrass fiddle professional division.
Summer 1961
David Lindley forms a bluegrass band called The Mad Mountain Ramblers with his La Salle schoolmate Steven John 'Steve' Cahill (b. Friday, April 5, 1946, Altadena, Los Angeles County, California), plus Richard Hargreaves, aka 'Dirty Dick', and Phil Cleveland.
THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #1 (SUMMER 1961 - OCTOBER 1962 (?))
1) David Lindley 5-string banjo, fiddle, backup vocals
2) Dick Hargreaves lead vocals, mandolin, fiddle, 12-string guitar
3) Steve Cahill lead vocals, 12-string guitar, mouth harp
4) Phil Cleveland string bass, backup vocals, 12-string guitar
1) David Lindley 5-string banjo, fiddle, backup vocals
2) Dick Hargreaves lead vocals, mandolin, fiddle, 12-string guitar
3) Steve Cahill lead vocals, 12-string guitar, mouth harp
4) Phil Cleveland string bass, backup vocals, 12-string guitar
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #1, Levitt Pavilion, Memorial Park, Pasadena, 1961/62 - from left: Steve Cahill, David Lindley, Dick Hargreaves, and Phil Cleveland
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #1, Levitt Pavilion, Memorial Park, Pasadena, 1961/62 - from left: Steve Cahill, David Lindley, Dick Hargreaves, and Phil Cleveland
David Lindley, 1961/62
Sunday, September 10, 1961: 'Hootenanny', Cat's Pajamas, 166 East Huntington Drive, Arcadia, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Al Merian, Mark Allen, Mike McClellan, Mad Marty, Pierce Powell, and many more.
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #1 at Cat's Pajamas, Arcadia, 1961 - from left: David Lindley, Phil Cleveland, Dick Hargreaves, and Steve Cahill
Friday, September 22, 1961: Gymnasium, La Salle High School, 3880 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
At the same time of The Mad Mountain Ramblers, David Lindley put together an "ad-hoc" bluegrass band called The Smog City Tresle Hangers with Dick Hargreaves, Mike McClellan, and an unnamed 12-string guitar player, just to play at the high school he attended at the time, for the closing/welcome to the Freshman class assembly. David Lindley and his classmate Leonard 'Lenny' Reed (later an attorney) also performed together as flamenco 6-string guitarists. "In my earliest days when I was getting into flamenco guitar, there were things I would play with a guy called Leonard Reed," David confirms in an interview with John Platt for the British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "We weren't called anything, we just used to play - we played assemblies, things like that. I just used to love flamenco." Another local bluegrass band called The Cellar Dwellers was on the bill (their members were all La Salle students) and maybe it was their guitar player who also played with The Smog City Trestle Hangers as courtesy. By the way, Chris Darrow was there that day but did not play. After the performance, he and Dick Hargreaves where checking out banjos in either Chris's or Dick's woody station wagon in front of the school.
THE SMOG CITY TRESTLE HANGERS #1 (SEPTEMBER 22, 1961)
1) David Lindley autoharp, backup vocals
2) Mike McClellan 5-string banjo, lead vocals
3) Dick Hargreaves fiddle, backup vocals
4) ? 12-string guitar, backup vocals
1) David Lindley autoharp, backup vocals
2) Mike McClellan 5-string banjo, lead vocals
3) Dick Hargreaves fiddle, backup vocals
4) ? 12-string guitar, backup vocals
The Smog City Trestle Hangers #1, La Salle High School, September 22, 1961 - from left: David Lindley, ?, Dick Hargreaves, and Mike McClellan
The Smog City Trestle Hangers #1, La Salle High School, September 22, 1961 - from left: David Lindley and Dick Hargreaves
The Smog City Trestle Hangers #1, La Salle High School, September 22, 1961 - from left: ?, Bill Bryson (future member of the band, but by then only a friend), and Mike McClellan
Friday, December 1 - Saturday, December 2, 1961: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley (5-string banjo, 6-string guitar, vocals, autoharp) and Phil Cleveland (string bass, 6-string guitar), backed up their friend Mike McClellan (vocals, 5-string banjo, 6-string guitar) when the latter played as opening act for Martha Schlamme at the Ash Grove. Actually Mike played there from Tuesday, November 28 to Thursday, December 14 (on Monday the club was closed), but he asked David and Phil to back him up only on the Fridays and Saturdays show.
Friday, December 8 - Saturday, December 9, 1961: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley and Phil Cleveland backed up again Mike McClellan at the Ash Grove.
California Tech (December 7, 1961)
1961/62: Cat's Pajamas, 166 East Huntington Drive, Arcadia, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley and Lenny Reed performed together as flamenco 6-string guitarists.
Lenny Reed and David Lindley at the Cat's Pajamas, Arcadia, 1961/62 (please notice that David has a stamp mark on his forehead. It was a copy of the NRA logo from the 1930s, one of FDR's programs. He loved that era, as much of his favorite music was from around then)
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Friday, May 4 - Saturday, May 5, 1962: 'Spring Showcase', Gymnasium, La Salle High School, 3880 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley and Dick Hargreaves played again at La Salle High School as The Smog City Trestle Ramblers, but with a different lineup which included Steve Cahill from The Mad Mountain Ramblers, David's schoolmate Bill Bryson (d. May 1, 2017, California), Sandy Moseley, and his older brother Steve Moseley. The band played same songs both nights, and one of their performance (Friday? Saturday?) was also recorded on a reel-to-reel tape by a student called John Delgatto (where you can listen David Lindley who introduced himself as 'Lamar G. Gumbody', and Steve Cahill as 'Stinky Steve'). Apparently, these were the band's last gigs before split up. Sandy Moseley went to play with The Crown Junction Stompers (and then with The Greenwood County Singers), his brother Steve Moseley disappeared from the music scene, Bill Bryson went to play with The Indestructible Old Timey String Band, while David Lindley, Steve Cahill and Dick Hargreaves continued to play with The Mad Moutain Ramblers, of course! By the way, David Lindley and his classmate Lenny Reed also performed together again as flamenco 6-string guitarists.
THE SMOG CITY TRESTLE HANGERS #2 (MAY 4-5, 1962)
1) David Lindley (aka Lamar G. Gumbody)
2) Dick Hargreaves
3) Sandy Moseley 5-string banjo, acoustic guitar
4) Steve Moseley 5-string banjo, acoustic guitar
5) Steve Cahill (aka Stinky Steve) 12-string guitar
6) Bill Bryson fiddle
1) David Lindley (aka Lamar G. Gumbody)
2) Dick Hargreaves
3) Sandy Moseley 5-string banjo, acoustic guitar
4) Steve Moseley 5-string banjo, acoustic guitar
5) Steve Cahill (aka Stinky Steve) 12-string guitar
6) Bill Bryson fiddle
Sunday, July 1, 1962: '2nd Cat's Pajamas Folk Festival', Sycamore Grove Park, 4800 block North Figueroa Street, off the Pasadena Highway near Avenue 43, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers came in second place to The Crown Junction Stompers in the String Band contest, judged by Dr. Joe Bossoni, bagpipe player and teacher at Cal Tech; Ed Kahn and Walt Pittman, teachers, instrument makers and performers; and Bess Hawes, a college instructor in folk ethnomusicology. In addition to the String Band contest, several single acts played on stage: Jim Kweskin, The Country Boys, The Golden State Boys, the Outhouse Four Minus, the Beard Splitters, Judy Fine, Stu Jamieson, Sandy Moseley, and Bill Forshay. The twins Ron and Roger Gile, owners of the Cat's Pajamas in Arcadia, sponsored the folk festival. Curiously, Phil Cleveland of The Mad Mountain Ramblers also played with The Crown Junction Stompers that day, maybe just as a courtesy.
Sunday, July 22, 1962: '2nd Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Camp Wildwood, 436 South Topanga Canyon Boulevard, Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley entered for the second time in a row the annual 'Topanga Banjo/Fiddle Contest' and he won the bluegrass banjo professional division. David's future bandmate Dick Greene also entered the contest for the second time and, needless to say, he won for the second time in a row, the bluegrass fiddle professional division!
Thursday, July 26 - Sunday, July 29, 1962: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Paul Sykes and Judy Fine.
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #1 in front of the old Ice House entrance in the alley, July 1962 - from left: Phil Cleveland, David Lindley, Dick Hargreaves, and Steve Cahill
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #1 in front of the old Ice House entrance in the alley, July 1962 - from left: Phil Cleveland, Steve Cahill, Dick Hargreaves, and David Lindley
Tuesday, July 31 - Sunday, August 5, 1962: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Paul Sykes and Judy Fine.
Tuesday, August 7 - Sunday, August 12, 1962: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Paul Sykes and Judy Fine.
Tuesday, August 14 - Sunday, August 19, 1962: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Paul Sykes and Judy Fine.
Tuesday, August 21 - Sunday, August 26, 1962: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Paul Sykes and Judy Fine.
Summer 1962
David Lindley was hired by the legendary The New Christy Minstrels to play 5-string banjo as a sort of "ghost member" for some live stage production that summer, but after three days he was fired. "I was in them for about three days," David confirms in an interview with John Platt for the British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "I was going to play banjo behind the scenes, behind Larry Ramos (later in The Association) and we were going to pretend that he was actually playing it. And I didn't show up, and I told Ramos, 'Look, motherfucker, you're going to have to play that solo yourself.' He didn't like that at all. It was a very strange part of my life."
September 1962 - June 1963
David Lindley attended for one year the Pasadena City College, 1570 East Colorado Boulevard, Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California.
September 1962 - June 1964
Chris Darrow spends two years at Pitzer College, 1050 North Mills Avenue, Claremont, assisting respected folkorist Guy Carawan, who was teaching American Folk Life Studies.
October 1962 (?)
Dick Hargreaves quits The Mad Mountain Ramblers and David Lindley hired Chris Darrow to replace him, after saw the latter playing at the Cat's Pajamas one night. "That is where David Lindley walked into my life", Chris confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "They had a hootenanny night on Thursday night and anyone could play there," he adds in another interview with Klemen Breznikar for It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine in 2011. "I was there with Charlie Zetterberg on banjo, Fritz Mulhauser on guitar and I played mandolin and sang. David came up after our set and asked if I would be interested in joining their band, as one of the members was quitting. I said I would, but that I still wanted to stay with my own band, The [Reorganized] Dry City Players as well. He said fine and that’s how it started."
THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #2 (OCTOBER 1962 (?) - NOVEMBER 1962 (?))
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Phil Cleveland
4) Chris Darrow lead vocals, mandolin, fiddle
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Phil Cleveland
4) Chris Darrow lead vocals, mandolin, fiddle
November 1962 (?)
Soon after Chris Darrow, The Mad Mountain Ramblers also added Chris' friend Robert Kenneth 'Bob' Warford (b. Thursday, July 18, 1946, Los Angeles County). Chris and Bob attended the same school a year or so earlier, the Webb School of California, but because Bob had been two years below Chris there, they actually became friends only more recently when they met through the Folk Music Center in Claremont.
THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #3 (NOVEMBER 1962 (?) - LATE MAY 1964)
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Phil Cleveland
4) Chris Darrow
5) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Phil Cleveland
4) Chris Darrow
5) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
business card from 1963
November/December 1962
Soon after joining The Mad Mountain Ramblers, Bob Warford also joined The Reorganized Dry City Players.
REORGANIZED DRY CITY PLAYERS #3 (NOVEMBER or DECEMBER 1962 - DECEMBER 1963)
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton
5) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton
5) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
Fall 1962: 'Pep Rally', outside near the Mirror Pools, Pasadena City College campus, East Colorado Boulevard at Marion Avenue, Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley, who was a student at PCC that year, and his friend Larry Nowlin (future founding member of Soft Machine) performed together as a duo during a pep rally.
UNNAMED DUO (FALL 1962)
1) David Lindley 5-string banjo, vocals
2) Larry Nowlin acoustic guitar, vocals
1) David Lindley 5-string banjo, vocals
2) Larry Nowlin acoustic guitar, vocals
David Lindley and Larry Nowlin, Pasadena City College, Fall 1962
1963
Chris Darrow attended Chaffey High School, 1245 North Euclid Avenue, Ontario, San Bernardino County, California.
Spring 1963
Tried to get out as many of their instruments as they could, The Mad Mountain Ramblers did a photo session outside Chris Darrow's former high school, Claremont's Webb School Of California. By the way, if you look at the photos below ("Chris' sister Joanie shot these using my camera," recalls Steve Cahill), you can see that Phil Cleveland was not there only because he didn't live in the area at the time, and may simply have been unable to come over when the photos were taken exactly.
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #3 outside Webb School of California, Claremont, Spring 1963 - from left: Bob Warford, Chris Darrow, David Lindley, and Steve Cahill
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #3 outside Webb School of California, Claremont, Spring 1963 - from left: Steve Cahill, David Lindley, Bob Warford, and Chris Darrow
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #3 outside Webb School of California, Claremont, Spring 1963 - from left: David Lindley, Steve Cahill, Chris Darrow (sitting), and Bob Warford
Thursday, May 9 - Saturday, May 11, 1963: 'Spring Showcase', Gymnasium, La Salle High School, 3880 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with a folk group called The Innkeepers (John Delgatto, a member of the latter band, recorded the Ramblers' Saturday's performance on a reel-to-reel tape). The Mad Mountain Ramblers played same songs every night.
Sunday, May 26 and/or Sunday, June 2, 1963: 'Hal's Hoot', KPFK-FM, The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Hal Lynch, who does 'Hal's Hoot' on KPFK-FM, broadcasted two one-hour separates segs of The Ice House's Sunday night 'Hootenanny' on May 26 and June 2. The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill (unclear if at one or both of these shows) along with Fred Gerlach, The Sherwood Singers, Pat & Vic, The Yachtsmen, Peter Evans, and Leni Ashmore.
Billboard (May 25, 1963)
Tuesday, June 18 - Sunday, June 23, 1963: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Don Paulin and Leni Ashmore.
Tuesday, June 25 - Sunday, June 30, 1963: The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Don Paulin and Leni Ashmore.
Key (June 20-27, 1963)
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Billboard (June 22, 1963)
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Friday, July 12, 1963: The Meeting Place, Sierra Athletic Club, 1275 West Foothill Boulevard, Upland, San Bernardino County, California
The Reorganized Dry City Players played at The Meeting Place the day their member Bob Warford met in the audience his future wife Deborah 'Debbie' Fawcett (they married in 1965 and divorced in 1972). The band played several times that year at this folk music club cthat during the daytime it was the Sierra Athletic Club - a local swimming and sports establishment - but at night the clubhouse was changed (at least on weekends) to a music venue. The club gave birth to some very innotative musicians including a folk band called The Ridgerunners, who a couple of years later became famous with the new name of We Five (remember 'You Were On My Mind' right?). Dry City's bassist Pete Fullerton saw The Ridgerunners at a high school convocation some time before and he thought that that was the music he wanted do (he loved bluegrass, but he had to take a chance with folk). Reorganized Dry City Players and The Ridgerunners were commonly at The Meeting Place on the same nights, so for several weekends when the two bands shared the bill there, Pete Fullerton played with both acts (one set each). By the way, according to Chris Darrow, Terry Kirkman later of The Association was the master of cerimonies of the club, and also the not yet famous Frank Zappa would show up on Hootenanny night and try to play phony folk songs.
Friday, July 19 - Saturday, July 20, 1963 (?): Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
From mid July to early September (or maybe from early August to early September, I'm not sure), every Fridays and Saturdays evening, The Mad Mountain Ramblers play on a sedate train ride at Frontierland, one of the themed lands of Disneyland, the first of two theme parks built at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim. They all wore Old West outfits supplied by the park. Regularly on each weekend, they would go and join a dixieland jazz band, The Firehouse Five Plus Two, to play what they referred to as "dixiegrass" for a set. In addition, two person who regularly came out to hear them at the Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, were the guys who was then running together the Merlin's Magic Shop in Disneyland, future stand-up comedian and Hollywood movie star Steve Martin, and future Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's member John McEuen (both would come and listen to them on their breaks and take banjo lessons from David Lindley). By the way, Debbie Fawcett, Bob Warford's wife-to-be, recorded a lot of the Disneyland shows on a portable Norelco reel-to-reel tape recorder. Bob, however, has no idea what ever happened to any of those tapes, except that he was pretty sure that some were re-recorded from the original 3-inch reels onto larger tape reels at higher speed, and a copy of those (or some of them) given to Chris Darrow, although the latter don't remember getting any tapes, but he will certainly look for them. Anyway, in 2002, a label from Silverlake, California, called Dead Beat Fine Recordings released some of the aforementioned recordings, on a double-CD bootleg entitled, 'Struttin' On The Strings - Live at Disneyland, 1964 [sic]'.
The Mad Mountain Ramblers #3 at Disneyland, Summer of '63 - from left: Steve Cahill (hidden), Chris Darrow, Phil Cleveland, Bob Warford, and David Lindley
Sunday, July 21, 1963: '3rd Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Camp Wildwood, 436 South Topanga Canyon Boulevard, Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley entered for the third time in a row the annual 'Topanga Banjo/Fiddle Contest', and he won for the second time in a row the bluegrass banjo professional division! David's future bandmate Dick Greene also entered the contest for the third time and, needless to say, he won for the third time in a row, the bluegrass fiddle professional division!
Friday, July 26 - Saturday, July 27, 1963 (?): Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
As I said above, I'm not sure if The Mad Mountain Ramblers play at Disneyland from mid July or from early August, so if the latter month was right, these shows maybe never happened.
Friday, August 2 - Saturday, August 3, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Thursday, August 8, 1963: 'Republican Party (aka GOP) party', William C. Rockwell home, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Starting from 6:30pm, David Lindley and others Ice House's regulars, providing music entertainment during a GOP party.
Friday, August 9 - Saturday, August 10, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Friday, August 16 - Saturday, August 17, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Sunday, August 18, 1963: 'Pasadena Folk Festival', Gen. Charles S. Farnsworth County Park (aka Farnsworth Park), 568 East Mount Curve Avenue, Altadena, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Fred Gerlach, The Sherwood Singers, Fred Thompson, The Willow Creek Ramblers, The Steeltown II, David & Michaela, LeSesne Hilton with John MacQuarrie, The Calimbo Steel Band, Randy Boone, Patti Ingalls, Lenny Reed, The Port Town Three, and many many more. Hugh Cherry, announcer on radio station KFOX of Long Beach, was the master of cerimonies for the festival. The free festival was offered to the public from 1:00pm to 6:00pm under the sponsorship of the Berry & Grassmueck music firm at 927 East Colorado Boulevard, Pasadena. The festival and hootenanny, planned to be an annual event, was coordinated by John MacQuarrie of the music firm.
Pasadena Independent (August 15, 1963)
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Pasadena Independent (August 15, 1963)
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Sunday, August 18, 1963: 'Hootenanny', in front of the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Exhibit, Tomorrowland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Sam Hinton, Sherwood Singers, Stu Jamieson, Gertrude Ward Gospel Singers, and many more.
Friday, August 23 - Saturday, August 24, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Friday, August 30 - Saturday, August 31, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Sunday, September 1, 1963: 'Bluegrass Spectaculars' (aka 'Ice House Bluegrass Festival'), The Ice House, 24 North Mentor Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California (afternoon show)
The Ice House held a two-day (September 1 (afternoon and evening shows) and 2 (evening show)) series of 'Bluegrass Spectaculars', that featured at least fifteen bluegrass bands, including Glen Campbell with The Dillards (they played on the second day), The Willow Creek Ramblers, and The Golden State Boys. Local KFOX deejay Hugh Cherry, who was the master of cerimonies, emphasizes that this was the first large gathering of California bluegrass bands held in Southern California. Needless to say, The Mad Mountain Ramblers were there too. They played the afternoon show on the first day. Bob Warford was fortunate to get tapes of the first and second day's evening shows of the so-called 'Ice House Bluegrass Festival' (Bob's tapes have set lists titled 'IHBF' and that was his recollection of what it was called), but he never was able to secure a recording of the first day's afternoon show, when he actually played with the Ramblers exactly.
Billboard (September 14, 1963)
Monday, September 2, 1963: 'Hootenanny', unknown themed land, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Sam Winston, Rod McKuen, Joe & Eddie, Frank Hamilton, Gale Garrett, and Gertrude Ward Gospel Singers.
Friday, September 6 - Saturday, September 7, 1963: Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Tuesday, October 1, 1963
David Lindley's 5-string banjo solo instrumental song, 'Mad Mountain Medley', was included on a compilation album, 'The Banjo Story Vol.1 Featuring the greatest Five-String Banjo Players' (Horizon WP 1623), released today only in the US. By the way, David recorded the song that year (1963) in a unknown recording studio in or around Los Angeles, California.
Saturday, October 19, 1963: 'Hootenanny', Gymnasium, La Salle High School, 3880 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Tim Morgan, Elaine Miller, Hamilton Singers, Cellar Dwellers, Toni Sellitto (backed up by Don Randolph on guitar), and Rick Rios.
Saturday, November 2 - Sunday, November 24, 1963: The Meeting Place, Sierra Athletic Club, 1275 West Foothill Boulevard, Upland, San Bernardino County, California
The Reorganized Dry City Players were on the bill along with Paul Sykes (2-24), Ken Carter (7-10), and Ken Greenwald (7-10).
Tuesday, November 19, 1963: 'American Heritage Day', Shakespeare Club, 171 South Grand Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers play at luncheon and afternoon programs.
December 1963
Bob Warford quits Reorganized Dry City Players and a guitar player called Fred Hellbrun replaces him.
REORGANIZED DRY CITY PLAYERS #4 (DECEMBER 1963 - APRIL or MAY 1964)
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton
5) Fred Heilbrun acoustic guitar
1) Chris Darrow
2) Roger Palos
3) Pete Madlem
4) Pete Fullerton
5) Fred Heilbrun acoustic guitar
unknown local newspaper (February 23, 1964)
Monday, unknown date, 1963 or 1964: 'Monday Night Hootenanny', 23 Skidoo, 2116 Westwood Boulevard, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers' gig.
Friday, January 17, 1964: 'Hootenanny', Boys Gymnasium, Pasadena High School, 2925 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Crown City Balladeers, Uncle Willie's Bluegrass, Guardsmen and Byer, Peggy & Charlie, Barbara Meason, Carpetbaggers, and Dean Walker.
Saturday, February 1, 1964: 'Hootenanny', Auditorium, San Gabriel High School, 801 South Ramona Street, San Gabriel, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Tim Morgan, Tom Dacon, and Glee Briggs and The Balladeers.
Thursday, March 12, 1964: 'Hootenanny', Gymnasium, Oak Avenue Intermediate School, 6623 Oak Avenue, Temple City, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Moutain Ramblers were on the bill along with Lynn Bowess, and Pauline Sosolovsky.
Friday, March 13, 1964: 'Hootenanny', Boys Gymnasium, Arcadia High School, 180 Campus Drive, Arcadia, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles, County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Tim Morgan, One and One, Crown City Balladeers, The Travelers, and The Freemen.
Saturday, March 21, 1964: '3rd Annual Spring Fling', unknown themed land, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Kay Bell, Spacemen, Rhythm Masters, Young Men from New Orleans, Yachtsmen, and Elliott Brothers Orchestra.
Thursday, April 2, 1964
David Lindley's 5-string banjo solo instrumental songs, 'The Johnson Boys' and 'Clinch Mountain Backstep', were included on a compilation album, '5-String Banjo Greats Featuring Ten of the Greatest Five-String Banjo Players' (Liberty LRP 3357 / LST 7357), released today only in the US. By the way, David recorded both songs in 1963 (backed up by Steve Cahill on 6-string guitar) in a unknown recording studio in or around Los Angeles, California.
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Wednesday, April 15, 1964: 'Barry Goldwater Rally', Convention Hall, Pasadena Civic Auditorium, 300 East Green Street, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Starting at 1:15pm, The Mad Mountain Ramblers, along with Dapper Dans, and The Yachtsmen, providing music entertainment during US Senator Barry Goldwater's visit to the San Gabriel Valley. Hugh Sanders, a television and motion picture actor, was the master of cerimonies.
April or May 1964
Reorganized Dry City Players broke up. Pete Fullerton joins The Ridgerunners, while Pete Madlem joins The Mad Mountain Ramblers.
Sunday, May 17, 1964: 'Air Patrol Pops Concert', Auditorium, Monrovia High School, 845 West Colorado Boulevard, Monrovia, San Gabriel Mountains, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Mad Mountain Ramblers were on the bill along with Jack Jones, The CAP Band, and Blue Notes Dance Band.
May ??, 1964
Bob Warford and Phil Cleveland leave The Mad Mountain Ramblers. I don't know what happened to Phil, but about Bob, I know that he had already joined The Golden State Boys, Southern California's premier bluegrass practitioners, a month before, in April. Anyway, Pete Madlem formerly of Reorganized Dry City Players, and Richard Sanders 'Dick' Greene (b. Monday, November 9, 1942, Los Angeles) formerly of Coast Mountain Ramblers, and Pine Valley Boys, replace Bob and Phil in The Mad Mountain Ramblers.
THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #4 (aka THE NEW MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS) (MAY ??, 1964 - JUNE ??, 1964)
1) David Lindley
2) Chris Darrow
3) Steve Cahill
4) Pete Madlem banjo, dobro, acoustic guitar
5) Dick Greene mandolin, fiddle
1) David Lindley
2) Chris Darrow
3) Steve Cahill
4) Pete Madlem banjo, dobro, acoustic guitar
5) Dick Greene mandolin, fiddle
Saturday, May 30, 1964: John A. Sexson Auditorium, Building C, Pasadena City College, 1570 East Colorado Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Billed as 'New Mad Mountain Ramblers', this was supposedly the first gig of the new lineup. Also on the bill: Thadius C Willingham, Aunt Brunhildas, Solomon Feldthouse, and many more.
Thursday, June 18, 1964: '4th Annual Grad Nite at Disneyland' (aka 'Grad Nite '64'), Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Frontierland, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
This was one of the last gigs of The Mad Mountain Ramblers before changing their name (see below).
Grad Nite at Disneyland - 1964 Souvenir Program
June ??, 1964
The Mad Mountain Ramblers changed their name to The Dry City Scat Band.
THE DRY CITY SCAT BAND #1 (aka THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #4) (JUNE ??, 1964 - AUGUST ?, 1964)
1) David Lindley
2) Chris Darrow
3) Steve Cahill
4) Pete Madlem
5) Dick Greene
1) David Lindley
2) Chris Darrow
3) Steve Cahill
4) Pete Madlem
5) Dick Greene
Tuesday, June 30 - Sunday, July 5 and Tuesday, July 7 - Sunday, July 12, 1964: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band (misspelled on the venue flyer as 'The Dri [sic] City Scat Band) opened for Mississippi John Hurt. By the way, you can listen and/or download the band's performance of Sunday, July 12, through Concert Vault's website here.
Friday, July 10, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Veterans Memorial Auditorium, 4117 Overland Avenue, Culver City, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band embarked on their first full-lenght Hootenanny tour sponsored by the Pepsi-Cola Bottling Company of Los Angeles, who had been designed to provided wholesome summer night entertainment for vacationing students, and to provided summer employment for talented students from the universities and colleges in Southern California. Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm. By the way, the tour should have ended on September 6, but apparently attendance wasn't that good, so some dates were finally cancelled and the tour ended abruptly supposedly around early-mid August. "During my last days with the Scat Band," Chris Darrow recalls in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976, "we were managed by a guy called Tom Campbell, who wrote ‘Darcy Farrow’. He was also head of booking entertainment at Disneyland… and he was hiring all sorts of interesting people – including us. [He] also compering the concerts of hootenannies, as they called them. These Hoots were basically to advertise Pepsi Cola, but they used to attract about 3 or 4000 people, because the bills were always very strong. Tom got together with this guy from Pepsi Cola and put a touring Hootenanny on the road – playing colleges to publicise Pepsi. We were all getting 100 dollars a week – which was actually the first time we made any money. There were a bunch of really good people involved with that scene… like Steve Mann, who was a legendary guitarist. He took the part of a guitar playing clown in the show. Steve Gillette was working with this chick as a duo [Marsha & Steve], and Mike Post, who later did a lot of TV work in Los Angeles, worked with a couple of really beautiful tall girls (about 6’2”, dressed up in space suits) as the Wellingbrook Singers. Then there was Alberte [Linda Albertano] and Shannon [Lee]... Linda Albertano co-wrote ‘2-10 Train’. After a short time the Pepsi scene fell apart – mainly to do with the lack of commercial success. Everyone split off and went their own ways… it was the end, and the beginning in a lot of ways”.
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Saturday, July 11, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Lindy Opera House, 5214 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Monday, July 13, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Hollywood High School, 1521 North Highland Avenue, Los Angeles, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, July 14, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Montebello Sr. High School, 2100 West Cleveland Avenue, Montebello, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, July 15, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, 3911 South Figueroa Street, University Park, Los Angeles, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, July 16, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Tuesday Afternoon Club Theatre, 400 North Central Boulevard, Glendale, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, July 17 - Saturday, July 18, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Grandstand, Los Angeles County Fairgrounds, 1101 West McKinley Avenue, Pomona, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Sunday, July 19, 1964: '4th Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Camp Wildwood, 436 South Topanga Canyon Boulevard, Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley entered for the fourth time in a row the annual 'Topanga Banjo/Fiddle Contest' and, needless to say, he won for the third time in a row, the bluegrass banjo professional division! By the way, Chris Darrow also entered the contest for the first time that year and, needless to say, he won the intermediate bluegrass banjo and fiddle division. Also Dick Greene entered for the fourth time the contest and, needless to say, he won for the fourth time in a row, the bluegrass fiddle professional division!
Monday, July 20 - Tuesday, July 21, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Wilshire Ebell Theatre, 4401 West 8th Street, Los Angeles, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, July 22, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Long Beach Polytechnic High School, 1600 Atlantic Avenue, Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, July 23, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Aragon Pavilion, 1 Navy Pier, 1 block south of Pacific Ocean Park, Santa Monica, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, July 24 - Saturday, July 25, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Morningside High School, 10500 South Yukon Avenue, Inglewood, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Monday, July 27, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Baldwin Park High School, 3900 Puente Avenue, Baldwin Park, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, July 28, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Leuzinger High School, 4118 West Rosecrans Avenue, Lawndale, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, July 29 - Thursday, July 30, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Devonshire Downs (aka The Downs), 18000 Devonshire Street, Northridge, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, July 31 - Saturday, August 1, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Ramona High School, 7675 Magnolia Avenue, Riverside, Riverside County, California
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Summer 1964 (?): unknown themed land, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
According to Chris Darrow, the Dry City Scat Band (although there's a possibility that the band was still billed as Mad Mountain Ramblers, because this was the name they always used when they played at Disneyland) play for Walt Disney and his wife Lillian at Disneyland, and he had a chance to shake Walt's hand too, which was a great thrill for him. Chris also recalls that the themed land where they play, along with the Clara Ward Singers and Olatunji, was the New Orleans Square, but obviously this is impossible because that themed land was opened only two years later, on July 24, 1966.
August ?, 1964
Chris Darrow quits The Dry City Scat Band. "In common with the later Kaleidoscope, the DCSB was a very rewarding but also very frustrating band… and my increasing discomfort culminated in my leaving," Chris recalls in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "I think the tide turned for me when Richard [Greene] started hanging out with a fiddler called Scott Stoneman; he met Scott and it was as if the devil had possessed him. And whereas previously he’d only been interested in a lackadaisical way, he suddenly began to think of nothing but musical recognition and success. Richard is probably the best living all round violinist in the world today – I’d have to say that – but in the Scat Band, I felt he was overstepping his role. All of us were pretty tense, and we had one or two conflicts as a result of our all being very anxious to play and do those things we individually felt were most worthwhile. Richard had a very strong will and personality, which eventually caused me to split. I have really happy memories of that band too, but if things don’t ride along smoothly, it’s always better to pull out – even if it’s painful at the time – so I left the Scat Band."
THE DRY CITY SCAT BAND #2 (aka THE MAD MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS #5) (AUGUST ?, 1964 - JUNE 1965)
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Pete Madlem
4) Dick Greene
1) David Lindley
2) Steve Cahill
3) Pete Madlem
4) Dick Greene
Monday, August 3, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Roxy Theatre, 13112 East Philadelphia Street, Whittier, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, August 4, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Narbonne High School, 24300 South Western Avenue, Harbor City, Los Angeles Harbor Region, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, August 5, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Tuesday Afternoon Club Theatre, 400 North Central Boulevard, Glendale, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, August 6 - Friday, August 7, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Starlight Bowl, 1249 Lockheed View Drive, Stough Park, Burbank, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Saturday, August 8, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Pasadena Civic Auditorium, 300 East Green Street, Pasadena Civic Center District, Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Monday, August 10, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Verdugo Hills High School, 10625 Plainview Avenue, Tujunga, San Gabriel Mountains, Crescenta Valley, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, August 11 - Wednesday, August 12, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Redondo Union High School, 631 Vincent Park, Redondo Beach, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, August 13, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Chaffey High School, 1245 North Euclid Avenue, Ontario, San Bernardino County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, August 14, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', San Gabriel Civic Auditorium, 320 South Mission Drive, San Gabriel, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Saturday, August 15, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', National Orange Show Exposition Hall, 689 South East Street, San Bernardino, San Bernardino County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Sunday, August 16 - Monday, August 17, 1964: 'Hootenanny', unknown themed land, Disneyland, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Orange County, California
Still billed with their old name of "Mad Mountain Ramblers", the Dry City Scat Band play at a couple of Hootenanny shows at Disneyland, along with The Modern Folk Quartet (16-17), Sam Hinton (16-17), Regency Three (16-17), Original Ward Singers (16-17), The Yachtsmen (16-17), Young Men from New Orleans (17), Eliott Brothers Orchestra (17), and Royal Tahitians (17).
The Dry City Scat Band #2 (aka The Mad Mountain Ramblers #5) at Disneyland, August 1964 - from left: David Lindley, Dick Greene, Steve Cahill, and Pete Madlem (hidden)
Monday, August 17 - Tuesday, August 18, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Citrus College, 18824 East Foothill Boulevard, Azusa, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, August 19, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Excelsior High School, Artesia & 183 3rd Street, Bellflower, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, August 20, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Exhibition Hall, Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, 300 East Ocean Boulevard, Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, August 21 - Saturday, August 22, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Woodrow Wilson Classical High School, 4400 East 10th Street, Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Monday, August 24, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Huntington Park High School, 6020 Miles Avenue, Huntington Park, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, August 25, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Veterans Memorial Auditorium, 4117 Overland Avenue, Culver City, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Wednesday, August 26, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Aragon Pavilion, 1 Navy Pier, 1 block south of Pacific Ocean Park, Santa Monica, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, August 27 - Friday, August 28, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', South Gate Municipal Auditorium, 4900 Suthern Avenue, South Gate, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Saturday, August 29, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Redlands Bowl, 25 Grant Street, Redlands, San Bernardino County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Monday, August 31, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Van Nuys High School, 6535 Cedros Avenue, Van Nuys, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled?)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Tuesday, September 1 - Wednesday, September 2, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', El Monte Legion Stadium, 11151 Monta Vista, El Monte, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Thursday, September 3, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Lynwood High School, 12124 Bullis Road, Lynwood, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Friday, September 4 - Saturday, September 5, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Auditorium, Mira Costa High School, 701 South Peck Avenue, Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 8:00pm.
Sunday, September 6, 1964: '1964 Summer Spectacular Pepsi Hootenanny', Catalina Casino, 1 Casino Way, Avalon, Santa Catalina Island, Los Angeles County, California (cancelled)
Also on the bill: Denny Brooks, The Wellingbrook Singers, Howard Hamilton, Alberte & Shannon, The Windy Three, Steve Mann, The Music Men, Marsha & Steve, The Pepsi Troupe Instrumentalists, and The Pepsi Minstrels (aka the entire cast of the tour). One show, started at 6:00pm.
September 1964
Chris Darrow attended Carl Hertel's Art History class at the Mt. San Antonio College, 1100 North Grand Avenue, Walnut, Los Angeles County, CA. By the way, it was there that Chris met his future wife Donna.
Tuesday, September 22 - Sunday, September 27, 1964: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band were on the bill along with Jose Feliciano, and The Possum Hunters. By the way, you can listen and/or download the band's performance of Friday, September 25, through Concert Vault's website here. Also in 2002, a label from Silverlake, California, called Dead Beat Fine Recordings released a CD bootleg entitled, 'Live at the Ash Grove, 1964', with another band's performance taken from one of these shows (or maybe from the shows below).
Los Angeles Free Press (September 24, 1964)
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California Tech (October 1, 1964)
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The Dry City Scat Band #2 at The Ash Grove, West Los Angeles, September or October 1964 - from left: David Lindley, Pete Madlem, Dick Greene, and Steve Cahill
Tuesday, September 29 - Sunday, October 4, 1964: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band were on the bill along with Jose Feliciano, and Seamus Ennis. By the way, you can listen and/or download the band's performance of Saturday, October 3, through Concert Vault's website here and here.
Los Angeles Free Press (October 1, 1964)
Friday, October 2, 1964: 'Pepsi Cola Hootenanny', Gymnasium, San Fernando Valley State College, 18111 Nordhoff Street, Northridge, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley was on the bill along with Keymer Twins, Churchill Singers, Marsha Gertenbach, and Steve Gillette.
Tuesday, October 13 - Sunday, October 18, 1964: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band were on the bill along with Guy Carawan, and Betty Mae Fikes.
Friday, October 2, 1964: 'Pepsi Cola Hootenanny', Gymnasium, San Fernando Valley State College, 18111 Nordhoff Street, Northridge, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley was on the bill along with Keymer Twins, Churchill Singers, Marsha Gertenbach, and Steve Gillette.
Tuesday, October 13 - Sunday, October 18, 1964: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band were on the bill along with Guy Carawan, and Betty Mae Fikes.
Los Angeles Free Press (October 15, 1964)
October 1964
Duly inspired by the so-called "British Invasion", Chris Darrow, on vocals and rhythm guitar, started an all-electric rock trio called The Fabulous T.J. Floggs (according to Chris, "T.J." is short for the border town of Tijuana, Mexico, while a "flogg" was an old high school term that they used with each other that meant “loser” or “slacker”) with his best friend and former bandmate Roger Palos on bass, and Thomas 'Tommy' Salisbury on drums. The band rehearsed in Claremont where Chris and Roger lived, while the new guy Tommy was from the next town over, San Dimas, and was the neighbor of Chris' wife-to-be Donna. "I decided to curtail my bluegrass career in favour of continuing college and starting a part-time rock group called The Floggs - that being a reference to a totally worthless person, a vagrant layabout… a typical college-type term of abuse meaning you were OK, but you were useless, you know?," Chris confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. The new band played hot classics from The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Them, The Animals, and The Yardbirds, but "we did folk-rock stuff too and we were sounding really good, though our early gigs were never bigger than local clubs and parties," Chris point out. “The transition to electric instruments demanded an almost total rethink of my musical education," he adds, "and I had to work up a rock ’n’ roll point of view after years of being a bluegrass freak… and it was a period of growing up for a lot of us – 1964/65. Suddenly, pop music was good again, in fact it was better than ever – and we all wanted to be part of it."
THE FABULOUS T.J. FLOGGS (OCTOBER 1964 - EARLY 1965)
1) Chris Darrow vocals, rhythm guitar
2) Tommy Salisbury drums
3) Roger Palos bass
1) Chris Darrow vocals, rhythm guitar
2) Tommy Salisbury drums
3) Roger Palos bass
Saturday, October 31, 1964: Chris Darrow's house, Claremont, San Gabriel Mountains, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Fabulous T.J. Floggs play their debut gig at a private party held at Chris Darrow's house to celebrate both 'Halloween' and Chris' dad's birthday.
The Fabulous T.J. Floggs' debut gig, October 31, 1964 - from left: Roger Palos, Chris Darrow, and Tommy Salisbury
Thursday, November 19, 1964: 'Pepsi Cola Hootenanny', Gymnasium, Saint John Bosco High School, 13640 Bellflower Boulevard, Bellflower, Los Angeles County, California
David Lindley's solo gig.
Saturday, December 5, 1964: 'Hootenanny', Boys Gymnasium, Pasadena High School, 2925 East Sierra Madre Boulevard, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band were on the bill along with King Dave Coen, Katy Mulder, and Dick Hargreaves.
Early 1965
The Fabulous T.J. Floggs' name was shortened to The Floggs, and the band subsequently added Bill Stamps on lead guitar, formerly of Rosie and The Originals.
THE FLOGGS #1 (EARLY 1965 - 1965)
1) Chris Darrow
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Roger Palos
4) Bill Stamps lead guitar
1) Chris Darrow
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Roger Palos
4) Bill Stamps lead guitar
business card from 1965
Spring 1965
At the same time of The Floggs, Chris Darrow forms again his first ol' bluegrass band, the Reorganized Dry City Players, with Bill Stamps, Roger Palos, and Bob Warford.
REORGANIZED DRY CITY PLAYERS #5 (SPRING 1965 - 1965)
1) Chris Darrow lead vocals, fiddle, mandolin
2) Roger Palos acoustic guitar, backup vocals
3) Bill Stamps upright bass, backup vocals
4) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
1) Chris Darrow lead vocals, fiddle, mandolin
2) Roger Palos acoustic guitar, backup vocals
3) Bill Stamps upright bass, backup vocals
4) Bob Warford banjo, dobro, backup vocals
Laguna Beach, CA, June 1965 - Reorganized Dry City Players #5, from left: Bill Stamps, Roger Palos, Chris Darrow, and Bob Warford
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Laguna Beach, June 1965 - Reorganized Dry City Players #5, from left: Chris Darrow and Bob Warford
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Spring 1965: The Meeting Place, Sierra Athletic Club, 1275 West Foothill Boulevard, Upland, San Bernardino County, California
According to Bob Warford, the reformed Organized Dry City Players play again at The Meeting Place just at the time that The Byrds had their first hit, 'Mr. Tambourine Man'.
April/May 1965
The Dry City Scat Band's songs, 'Jealous' and 'Baldheaded Of The Broom', were included on a Elektra Records compilation album, 'String Band Project' (Elektra EKL-292 / EKS-7292), released this month only in the US. By the way, according to the album's liner notes, David Lindley and Dick Greene at the time teach on Sundays at the Ash Grove School of Traditional Music.
The Dry City Scat Band #2 in the studio recording the songs of 'String Band Project' - from left: David Lindley and Pete Madlem
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1965: Audio Engineering Associates, 1029 North Allen Avenue, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Dry City Scat Band entered a local studio to record six songs - 'Fisher's Hornpipe', 'Greensbiar Shore', 'Devil's Dream', 'Clarinet Marmalade', 'Don't Let Your Deal Go Down', and 'Bury Me Beneath The Willow' - that were subsequently released on a very limited edition EP entitled, 'Sounds' (Scat Records 7734). "Yes, the EP. I'd love to get hold of one of those," David Lindley recalls in an interview with John Platt for British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "That was one of the best things I ever played on. There was a thing called 'Fisher's Hornpipe', a piece called 'Devil's Dream', a double banjo thing and a double fiddle tune. There were four [actually three] on one side and three on the other. We put it out mostly for our friends and to document the band. I've tried to get hold of the masters, but I can't. I know where they, and I'm going to get my friends over, you know, 'my Chinese friends.' (Burst of manic laughter.) I'd like to do a few reprints of them."
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1965
The Floggs added Hugh Kohler, a grear organ player from Claremont. "We decided to lift our horizons and brought in Hugh Kohler from Texas," Chris Darrow confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "Then we began to introduce original and traditional material into the set – including songs like ‘If The Night’ [written by Chris] and ‘Hesitation Blues’, which found their way onto the first Kaleidoscope album two years later." "In many respects, the Floggs were pioneers," he adds. "We were doing bluegrass tunes electrically, we were singing country harmonies, Bill Stamps was using finger picks on electric guitar, and nobody really knew how to take us – because we didn’t sound like any well-known group we could relate to. Nevertheless, we often tried to adopt a Top 40 formula so we could play at dances; we did a lot of popular stuff, and favourites like ‘Gloria’, but we always ended up sounding like ourselves. We had a respectable following, especially among other musicians in the area, but the record companies successfully concealed any excitement they may have felt when they heard out demo tapes."
THE FLOGGS #2 (1965)
1) Chris Darrow
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Bill Stamps
4) Roger Palos
5) Hugh Kohler organ
1) Chris Darrow
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Bill Stamps
4) Roger Palos
5) Hugh Kohler organ
The Floggs #2, 1965 - from left: Chris Darrow, Hugh Kohler, Bill Stamps, Roger Palos, and Tommy Salisbury
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The Floggs #2, 1965 - from left: Chris Darrow, Tommy Salisbury, Bill Stamps. Roger Palos, and Hugh Kohler
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The Floggs #2, 1965 - from left: Chris Darrow, Hugh Kohler, Roger Palos, Bill Stamps, and Tommy Salisbury
Wednesday, August 11, 1965: 'Battle of the Bands', Hilltop Golf Course, Pomona, Pomona Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Floggs "battled" against The Deepest Blue and other unknown bands.
1965
Reorganized Dry City Players broke up again (Bob Warford will play with The Kentucky Colonels, Ricky Nelson, Flying Burrito Brothers, Michael Nesmith, and Linda Ronstadt) and around the same time bassist Roger Palos also quits The Floggs to get married and get a job, and Chris Darrow took over the bass role in the band. “Roger Palos had left to support his family with more secure employment, and we’d trimmed down to a quartet again – with me switching to bass," Chris confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "We became a tight, four piece machine," Chris adds.
THE FLOGGS #3 (1965 - SUMMER 1966)
1) Chris Darrow bass
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Bill Stamps
4) Hugh Kohler
1) Chris Darrow bass
2) Tommy Salisbury
3) Bill Stamps
4) Hugh Kohler
Monday, unknown date, 1965: The Forum Club, Montclair, Pomona Valley, San Bernardino County, California
"Our first week gig [as four piece] was at a place called the Forum, opening for Manual and the Renegades, one of my favorite bands from high school days," Chris Darrow recalls. "I had learned to play bass over the weekend, as Roger [Palos] had quit on a Friday and Monday was our engagement. No time to teach someone else the songs. That’s how I became a bass player, by necessity."
1965: 'Battle of the Bands', The Forum Club, Montclair, Pomona Valley, San Bernardino County, California
The Floggs "battled" again against The Deepest Blue and other unknown bands.
June 1965
The Dry City Scat Band broke up. Pete Madlen becomes a quite well known classical writer (two years later he will play dobro as sessionman in a song titled 'I Found Out', included in Kaleidoscope's 2nd album, 'A Beacon From Mars'), while David Lindley and Dick Greene went to form a new bluegrass band called, creatively (and because they couldn't agree on any other name), The Bluegrass Band, with Mark LeVine, Mayne Smith (b. Loyd Mayne Smith, 1939) formerly of The Redwood Canyon Ramblers, and Dick Hargreaves, formerly of The Mad Mountain Ramblers.
"Our first week gig [as four piece] was at a place called the Forum, opening for Manual and the Renegades, one of my favorite bands from high school days," Chris Darrow recalls. "I had learned to play bass over the weekend, as Roger [Palos] had quit on a Friday and Monday was our engagement. No time to teach someone else the songs. That’s how I became a bass player, by necessity."
1965: 'Battle of the Bands', The Forum Club, Montclair, Pomona Valley, San Bernardino County, California
The Floggs "battled" again against The Deepest Blue and other unknown bands.
June 1965
The Dry City Scat Band broke up. Pete Madlen becomes a quite well known classical writer (two years later he will play dobro as sessionman in a song titled 'I Found Out', included in Kaleidoscope's 2nd album, 'A Beacon From Mars'), while David Lindley and Dick Greene went to form a new bluegrass band called, creatively (and because they couldn't agree on any other name), The Bluegrass Band, with Mark LeVine, Mayne Smith (b. Loyd Mayne Smith, 1939) formerly of The Redwood Canyon Ramblers, and Dick Hargreaves, formerly of The Mad Mountain Ramblers.
THE BLUEGRASS BAND (JUNE 1965 - JULY 18, 1965)
1) David Lindley vocals, banjo
2) Dick Greene fiddle
3) Mark LeVine vocals, acoustic guitar
4) Mayne Smith vocals, dobro
5) Dick Hargreaves upright bass
1) David Lindley vocals, banjo
2) Dick Greene fiddle
3) Mark LeVine vocals, acoustic guitar
4) Mayne Smith vocals, dobro
5) Dick Hargreaves upright bass
Tuesday, June 29 - Sunday, July 4 and Tuesday, July 6 - Sunday, July 11, 1965: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
The Bluegrass Band opened for The Rising Sons. By the way, Mayne Smith at that time ran the PA system at the Ash Grove.
Los Angeles Free Press (July 2, 1965)
Los Angeles Free Press (July 9, 1965)
Summer Trojan (July 12, 1965)
The Bluegrass Band at The Ash Grove, West Los Angeles, June/July 1965 - from left: Dick Greene, Mark LeVine, Mayne Smith, Dick Hargreaves, and David Lindley
Van Nuys Valley News (June 29, 1965)
Sunday, July 18, 1965: '5th Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Camp Wildwood, 436 South Topanga Canyon Boulevard, Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
The Bluegrass Band - strangely introduced on stage as The Dry City Scat Band (!) - played at the intermission a brief set (which was recorded by John Delgatto on a reel-to-reel tape) of just two songs - 'How Mountain Girls Can Love' and 'Orange Blossom Special'. David Lindley and Dick Greene also performed as solo contestants; David entered for the fifth time in a row the annual contest and, nedless to say, won for the fourth time in a row the bluegrass banjo professional division, while Dick (backed up by The Bluegrass Band) also entered for the fifth time the annual contest and he also possibly won for the fifth time in a row the bluegrass fiddle professional division too, after a face off with Taj Mahal. By the way, Chris Darrow also entered for the second time the contest and, needless to say, he won again the intermediate bluegrass banjo and fiddle division! By the way, The Bluegrass Band supposedly broke up right after this gig and Dick Greene went to play with The Greenbriar Boys, and later with Bill Monroe and His Bluegrass Band.
Friday, September 10 - Sunday, September 12 and Tuesday, September 14 - Sunday, September 20 and Tuesday, September 22, 1965: Ash Grove, 8162 Melrose Avenue, Fairfax, West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
'Dave' Lindley, as he was advertised, was on the bill along with Lightnin' Hopkins, and Rene Heredia.
Los Angeles Free Press (September 10, 1965)
Los Angeles Free Press (September 17, 1965)
October 1965 (?)
Other than athletics and music, David Lindley's chief interest at school had been art, so after he left university he went to work for about a year, in an art gallery as a painter of astrological sings on rocks. This establishment was known as the Add Gallery and was in Pasadena. It was run by a guy called Morris Smith who was a big fan of the bluegrass movement, which accounts for the endless streams of shiftless bums he employed. Smith was apparently always coming up with ideas; he was one of the first people to produce and market biodegradable shampoo! The rocks were also his idea. "That's what I did, signs on white rocks," David recalls in an interview with John Platt for British rock magazine Comstock Lode in December 1976. "We got the rocks from Japan." Lindley also did "real" painting, which he was able to sell through the gallery. It was around the same time that he also switched from 5-string to 7-string banjo, and started to experiment with electric stuff together with a guy called John Welsh, an instrument maker and a really fine guitarist, who at the time worked as clerk at the Add Gallery.
UNNAMED REHEARSAL DUO (OCTOBER 1965 (?) - DECEMBER 1965 (?))
1) David Lindley vocals, 7-string banjo
2) John Welsh vocals, guitar
1) David Lindley vocals, 7-string banjo
2) John Welsh vocals, guitar
December 1965 (?)
David Lindley and John Welsh's unnamed duo becomes a quartet with the addition of a very good harmonica player called Mark Feedman, and a 16-year-old drummer born and raised in Hollywood and named John Vidican (b. John Allen Vidican, Thursday, February 10, 1949).
UNNAMED REHEARSAL BAND (DECEMBER 1965 (?) - 1966)
1) David Lindley
2) John Welsh
3) Mark Feedman harmonica
4) John Vidican drums
1) David Lindley
2) John Welsh
3) Mark Feedman harmonica
4) John Vidican drums
December 1965 (?): Audio Craft Recording Studios, 283 North Garey Avenue, Pomona, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
The Fabulous Floggs (as they were credited on the reel-to-reel tape....see below) entered Audio Craft Recording Studios, to record a seven-song demo that included: 'She's My Woman', 'Now's The Time', 'Move On Down The Line', 'If It's Love Want', 'If The Night', 'Must I Hesatate', and 'Walkin' Down The Line'. "We cut 7 tunes (including Dylan’s ‘Walkin' Down The Line’ – the only non-original) in a two track studio in Pomona," Chris Darrow confirms in an interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976, "but Peter Stark (the son of Broadway show producer Ray Stark), who attended Claremont Mens College with me, had no success when he tried to sell us to A & R men." "We wanted to go to the next level, so a friend of mine, Randy Tiffany, put up some money for us to go into the studio and record a bunch of songs," Chris adds. "We didn’t know anything about recording and trusted the studio to steer us in the right direction. It was a studio in Pomona on the second floor over a movie theater, called Audio Craft. We knocked the seven songs out in one night and mixed them as well. We started about seven and we were out of there before midnight, tape in our hands. Now what? We enlisted the aid of a student friend from my college class whose father was the Broadway impresario, Ray Stark. His name was Peter Stark and we suddenly had someone who wanted to be a manager-type guy. That was new to us and soon there were tapes going around, but no one seemed to bite. Maybe Peter didn’t know what to do, maybe we were presented to the wrong guys, but nothing came of our quest." By the way, three of the songs from the demo, 'If The Night' and 'Move On Down The Line' written by Chris Darrow, and 'Must I Hesatate' that was actually entitled 'Hesitation Blues' and was a popular song adapted from a traditional tune, were later to appear on 'Side Trips', the first Kaleidoscope album (with 'Move On Down The Line' that became 'Pulsating Dream' and that was co-credited to David Lindley and Solomon Feldthouse).
The Fabulous Floggs demo tape from late 1965
Friday, January 21 - Saturday, January 22, 1966: The Jabberwock, 2901 Telegraph Avenue at Russell Street, Berkeley, Alameda County, California
Advertised as playing "harp-guitar, bowed banjo and fingerpicked fiddle", David Lindley played a couple of solo gigs at The Jabberwock, Berkeley's most famous folk club. By the way, David's surname was misspelled as "Lindly" on the club calendar (see below).
The Jabberwock calendar, January 1966
Early/Mid 1966
David Lindley's unnamed rehearsal band break up after John Welsh left them and the country because the US Army wanted to draft him but he thought it was a lot of shit, which it was, so he split (apparently he got busted before going AWOL). By the way, the band have never played live, but supposedly some tapes of their rehearsals exists somewhere in David's private archive. At that point, however, Lindley, Feedman and Vidican put together a garage band called The Rodents in San Bernardino, California. I do not know much about them (and their below lineup is just a guess), just that they apparently released a single, 'And Your Bird Can Sing / Come And Live With Me', for a local little label called Pequod Records, before breaking up.
THE RODENTS (EARLY/MID 1966)
1) David Lindley vocals, guitar
2) Mark Feedman harmonica
3) John Vidican drums
4) Brian Monsour keyboards
5) Tom vocals, guitar
6) Rick O'Riell bass
1) David Lindley vocals, guitar
2) Mark Feedman harmonica
3) John Vidican drums
4) Brian Monsour keyboards
5) Tom vocals, guitar
6) Rick O'Riell bass
Sunday, March 20, 1966: The Add Gallery, Pasadena, San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County, California
Continuing exhibition with David Lindley paintings.
Saturday, May 7, 1966: 'Annual FIJI Islander', Isthmus of Catalina Island, Santa Catalina Island, California
The Floggs played at the annual 'FIJI Islander' themed party hosted by University of Southern California's Phi Gamma Delta fraternity and held to raised funds for several causes.
Daily Trojan (May 6, 1966)
Early May or Early/Mid June 1966
Chris Darrow took a copy of the seven-song demo tape of The Floggs to the Whisky à Go Go, the most famous nightclub on the Sunset Strip, West Hollywood. The Floggs tried getting a record deal and Chris hoped that the club's owners, Elmer Valentine and Mario Maglieri, could help them. Sadly they never called him back. By the way, speaking about the "tape episode" in several interviews, Chris has two different memories of when and how it happened. The first time he remembered being in the upstairs office of Elmer and Mario right next to the great, late Ray Manzarek, who was trying to get The Doors their first gig at the club, and so this means that the "tape episode" occured around early May because The Doors play at the Whisky for the very first time on May 9; while another time he remembered being in the upstairs office of Elmer and Mario the night he saw The Doors play as opening act for Them (he was there to see Them, who he was just mad about at the time, but he first saw The Doors and he was so not knocked out by them that he went immediately up to Elmer and Mario's office, and said that he had a band (The Floggs) better than The Doors and that they should let them play), and so this means that the "tape episode" occured a month later in early/mid June because The Doors and Them played together at the Whisky from June 2 to June 18. So, which Chris' version is the right one?
Summer 1966
The Floggs failed to get a recording deal and subsequently break up. "The boys soon started getting restless, and school, jobs, girlfriends and cars became more and more important that the music," Chris Darrow recalls. "I eventually quit my own band and went to my art classes at the Claremont Graduate School. I thought that was 'it' for me and didn’t have a clue as to where I could go with my songs and the sounds rolling around in my head." "I was married, had a child, was going to school full time and wanted to play music. The band was not as serious as I was at the time, so I dissolved the band," Chris adds in an interview with Klemen Breznikar for It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine in 2011. "It eventually got to the point where I thought that I was the only one in the band who really wanted to make it musically," he also adds in another interview with Mac Garry for ZigZag magazine in January 1976. "You know, people were coming to rehearsals late and so forth – a lot of niggly little things which, when added together, influenced me to pack it in. My plan, at that stage, was to concentrate on getting my degree – whereupon I could devote all my energies to music in the secure knowledge that I had something tangible to fall back on if necessary. Of course, theoretically the idea was sound enough – but in reality it led to total depression. I was at graduate school, working on a master’s degree in painting, as well as teaching art and art history a a girls school a couple of days a week. On top of that I was giving guitar lessons in the evenings – so I had 3 or 4 scenes going at once… And it suddenly dawned on me that satisfaction was slipping through my fingers, that music had gone from my life… I can remember that terrible feeling of despair." By the way, in January 2003 German label Taxim Records, who has most of Chris Darrow's recordings, announced the release of The Floggs' seven-song demo tape, but the album has yet to come out so far.
Sunday, July 24, 1966: '6th Annual Topanga Banjo And Fiddle Contest', Camp Wildwood, 436 South Topanga Canyon Boulevard, Topanga Canyon, Santa Monica Mountains, Los Angeles County, California
After winning the banjo professional division for fourth times in a row (!!), the promoters eventually retired David Lindley from the contest and made him a judge that year. By the way, the banjo professional division that year was won by John McEuen (backed up by his future band, The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band).
September 1966
After The Floggs disbanded, Chris Darrow was going to school full-time as a grad student at the Claremont Graduate School and University Center, 150 East 10th Street, Claremont, for his MFA degree in art. He also teached art and art history two days a week for a year at the Girls Collegiate High School in Claremont and, last but not least, he also worked as assistant curator of the Scripps College Art Gallery 112 at 1030 Columbia Avenue in Claremont.
September ??, 1966
David Lindley formed a rock and roll band, the soon-to-be Kaleidoscope, and...the rest is history.
November 1966
David Lindley called Chris Darrow and invited him to join the soon-to-be Kaleidoscope. "While working in the Scripps College Art Gallery one night, I got a call from David Lindley asking me if I would be interested in joining a band that was forming," Chris confirms in an interview with Klemen Breznikar for It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine in 2011. "I said yes, immediately. I quit school and jumped right in!"
